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the house of representatives is reconvening to consider the fiscal cliff deal. overwhelmingly approved by the senate in the wee hours of this new year. republicans meet at 1:00. the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god,
the house of representatives is reconvening to consider the fiscal cliff deal. overwhelmingly approved by the senate in the wee hours of this new year. republicans meet at 1:00. the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will...
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welcome back to breaking news cover range on a fiscal cliff deal on capitol hill. democrats got out of their meeting with vice president joe biden. the vice president had been is set to the hill to discuss the deal and he spent much of the past 24 hours working out the details with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. here is what we know about the potential deal as of right now. current bush era tax cuts will expire for individuals with an income over $400,000, also for couples with an income over $450,000. unemployment benefits will be extended. the sequester, automatic spending cuts that would hit a wide range of government programs, including department of defense, will be dedelayed for a two-month period and be paid for with a 50/50 split on tax increases and spending cuts. joining us now is kelly o'donnell what have you learned with the vice president's meeting with senate democrats? >> we were able to talk to some within the meeting, they are in a bit of waiting game, in part because of the legislation, being turned into an actual test that will have the
welcome back to breaking news cover range on a fiscal cliff deal on capitol hill. democrats got out of their meeting with vice president joe biden. the vice president had been is set to the hill to discuss the deal and he spent much of the past 24 hours working out the details with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. here is what we know about the potential deal as of right now. current bush era tax cuts will expire for individuals with an income over $400,000, also for couples with an...
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marco rubio, a no vote on the fiscal cliff deal. coming up on "starting point "oishg the senate passed that deal as america plunged off the fiscal cliff. now the house has to throw us a rope. someone who will be voting on this measure in a few hours. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. what's in your wallet? hut! are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot. yo, buddy! i got this. gimme one, gimme one, gimme one! the power of the "nam
marco rubio, a no vote on the fiscal cliff deal. coming up on "starting point "oishg the senate passed that deal as america plunged off the fiscal cliff. now the house has to throw us a rope. someone who will be voting on this measure in a few hours. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the...
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cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister silvio berlusconi is rounding out his new year with a divorce, pinning his ex-wife almost $4 million per month. he was accused of having relationships with young women. the venezuelan president hugo chavez cents a message of faith to his supporters from his hospital bed. the message said that well- wishers and supporters were helping his recovery following the cancer operation. there is been speculation over whether his health has left him fit to lead the country. >>> a 6-year-old british girl who was abducted by he
cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister...
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cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister silvio berlusconi is rounding out his new year with a divorce, pinning his ex-wife almost $4 million per month. he was accused of having relationships with young women. the venezuelan president hugo chavez cents a message of faith to his supporters from his hospital bed. the message said that well- wishers and supporters were helping his recovery following the cancer operation. there is been speculation over whether his health has left him fit to lead the country. >>> a 6-year-old british girl who was abducted by he
cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister...
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word of a possible deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. the vice president of the united states, joe biden, he is now inside a room, closed door room, meeting with senate democrats. he's trying to sell the plan. it was just a few moment ago we saw him walk by our own dana bash up on capitol hill, with a lot of other reporters going into the room with the senate majority leader harry reid. watch the tape. >> can you flip around. can you flip around? we're going to get the vice president right now. we're going to get the vice president right now. mr. vice president, do you have a deal? >> happy new year. >> mr. vice president, we're live on cnn. do you have a deal? >> happy new year. >> senator reid, how do you feel? got to love live tv. there you go. >> we do love live tv. dana bash doing an excellent job on capitol hill. the vice president smiling broadly, just saying happy new year. here's what we know so far. the house minority leader nancy pelosi, the senate majority leader, harry reid, they have spoken to the president, they have signe
word of a possible deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. the vice president of the united states, joe biden, he is now inside a room, closed door room, meeting with senate democrats. he's trying to sell the plan. it was just a few moment ago we saw him walk by our own dana bash up on capitol hill, with a lot of other reporters going into the room with the senate majority leader harry reid. watch the tape. >> can you flip around. can you flip around? we're going to get the vice president right...
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i do not believe this congress is going to be able to deal with the fiscal cliff. the next congress, unless they reform senate filibuster rules and also -- and you can tell me whether this is a dream come true -- what if nancy pelosi and john boehner kind of got together and nancy pelosi told boehner he could bring the votes for his speakership and then maybe together could isolate the tea party section of his group and take away some of the radical left of her group and bring the moderates together, support him for speakership. me, being a democrat, i would not get everything i want, but the republicans would get everything they wanted. by the time re-election came up they would have seen there was a lot of progress made and maybe they could not run primaries on those guys that decided to run to the middle with policy they laid out together. host: thank you for the call. guest: so many things. basically, you are assuming that john boehner would be elected speaker in a democratic house. it is not likely that they would give him their votes. it is far more likely, q
i do not believe this congress is going to be able to deal with the fiscal cliff. the next congress, unless they reform senate filibuster rules and also -- and you can tell me whether this is a dream come true -- what if nancy pelosi and john boehner kind of got together and nancy pelosi told boehner he could bring the votes for his speakership and then maybe together could isolate the tea party section of his group and take away some of the radical left of her group and bring the moderates...
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. >> all eyes on the house of representatives as we await some action on the fiscal cliff deal. we are live with the late-breaking developments as we wait to hear from congressional democrats. and the health crisis facing secretary of state hillary clinton. new details about her condition and how doctors are treating the blood clot that was found near her brain. and a. a young mom facing jail time on child abuse charges, ordered not to get pregnant for the next 13 years. is that legal? our panel weighs in. and a very rare new year's day session for the house. just hours after the senate passed its version of the fiscal cliff bill. >> house democratic leaders speaking now. let's listen in on what they have to say. >> gave us a thoughtful and detailed explanation of what's gone on and how it was that he and the president working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. quite honestly so frank in his conversation with us in explaining as much a
. >> all eyes on the house of representatives as we await some action on the fiscal cliff deal. we are live with the late-breaking developments as we wait to hear from congressional democrats. and the health crisis facing secretary of state hillary clinton. new details about her condition and how doctors are treating the blood clot that was found near her brain. and a. a young mom facing jail time on child abuse charges, ordered not to get pregnant for the next 13 years. is that legal?...
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on thist your take fiscal cliff deal. david in louisiana, republican caller. caller: i feel this bill is not really accomplishing anything. if we keep ignoring what we are doing with the tax dollars, iciest of money going to refuse -- i see this money going to a very few states and individuals. it is not stimulating manufacturing here. we are buying chinese solar panels and trying to offset that by putting tariffs on imports. it is a big joke. i'm not speaking just on the federal approval. that is just one example. we've got to have oversight and planning. we've got to do something that will not have long-range negative impacts. we've got to control spending. it is not a democrat or republican gain. we have to be realistic about what we are spending our money on. host: marla in missouri. go ahead. caller: a couple of things. the last few callers are right. it is not a democrat or republican. it is the whole cabinet. the thing that gets me is that ronald reagan did are all the money from social security. i am one of those people. i'm also on social security now
on thist your take fiscal cliff deal. david in louisiana, republican caller. caller: i feel this bill is not really accomplishing anything. if we keep ignoring what we are doing with the tax dollars, iciest of money going to refuse -- i see this money going to a very few states and individuals. it is not stimulating manufacturing here. we are buying chinese solar panels and trying to offset that by putting tariffs on imports. it is a big joke. i'm not speaking just on the federal approval. that...
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cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have some time to reflect here. the president said that he did speak on the phone to speaker john boehner this afternoon. he also had majority leader harry reid to avoid the fiscal cliff and figure out a passport. he said he is ready and willing to try to get a compromise package done. all at once or stuff like that. but we'll have to wait until after the holiday. the president planning to hold out for the holidays, and congress is out for the holidays. the president saying that putting pressure began on republicans, house republicans, to least extend tax cuts for the middle class. th
cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have some time to reflect here. the president said that he did speak on...
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house conservatives threatened to kill fiscal cliff deal. that is the headline on this article. house republicans are in conference. we're hoping the leadership will come out afterward. if they do, we will bring you that press conference. in this article, it says that less than 12 hours after senate majority leader mitchell and a a -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell marshaled the votes, the deal appealed squash by a revolt led by eric cantor. although his remarks were brief, they sent shock waves through his conference, which was already extremely skeptical of the agreement, and perhaps looking for a leader. conservative opposition to the agreement stems from a host of issues, including that the deal does not include any spending cuts, would significantly add to the deficit and raise taxes on those making more than $400,000 a year. while the republicans were meeting earlier today, the congressional budget office came out with its scoring of the bill passed by the senate. another four dollars trillion in deficit spending is what they scored its ad for the next nine years,
house conservatives threatened to kill fiscal cliff deal. that is the headline on this article. house republicans are in conference. we're hoping the leadership will come out afterward. if they do, we will bring you that press conference. in this article, it says that less than 12 hours after senate majority leader mitchell and a a -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell marshaled the votes, the deal appealed squash by a revolt led by eric cantor. although his remarks were brief, they sent...
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life opens up when you do. >>> well, we appear to have a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a democratic source says a deal was reached just minutes ago. democrats in the senate are meeting right now on capitol hill with vice president joe biden who helped move these takes long. and there is word that there may be a vote in the senate this evening, possibly before midnight. we'll see. we will be back in just a moment with continuing coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> welcome back. let's go back to nbc's chuck todd. we are talking about the fiscal cliff issue about an apparent deal that has been struck in the senate tonight. chuck, before the break you were talking about the possibility, even likelihood that there will be holdouts on both sides of the aisle who don't like this deal, and perhaps may not even pass
life opens up when you do. >>> well, we appear to have a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a democratic source says a deal was reached just minutes ago. democrats in the senate are meeting right now on capitol hill with vice president joe biden who helped move these takes long. and there is word that there may be a vote in the senate this evening, possibly before midnight. we'll see. we will be back in just a moment with continuing coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. you're watching...
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. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon tomorrow. house minority leader nancy pelosi released a statement just minutes ago saying in part "when a final agreement is reached and passed by the senate i will present it to the house democratic caucus." vice president joe biden who worked for the past hours with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, worked to reach the deal. for more, i am joined by the vice president's former chief economist and adviser, jared burnstein. >> well, it is nice to be with you, with what sounds like some progress on the hill. >> are there any surprises for you in all of this, and how it is going down? >> well, i was a bit surprised by
. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon tomorrow. house minority...
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cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news? >> reporter: well, we do know this, a source familiar with these talks says that president obama is not going to be offering anything new during this afternoon's meeting. he's essentially going to be saying what he said at the white house last friday when he called on congress to put forth a package that would extend bush era tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less, extend unemployment insurance benefits, as well as stave off some of those deep spending cuts that are set to go into effect. the president is going to make
cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news?...
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probably celebrating because they just got word from the white house that there is a deal, a fiscal cliff deal. the problem is the dancing may not be happening all the way up here on capitol hill because, frankly, it still has to pass the senate and the house. but they can still cheer. i'm bret baier live in washington. we have the breaking news that they are very close they say to the final deal between senate democrats and republicans and vice president biden who is currently meeting with senate democrats in a closed door meeting trying to get skeptical democrats to sign on to the mini deal that they are trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. the problem that they won't avoid it technically. they will miss the midnight deadline because the house has adjourned for the night. they don't have anything to score. they don't have anything to react to because no piece of legislation has made it to the senate. this s the shot we have been looking at for a long time just outside the senate chamber. if you just turn the camera a little bit you would see the door to the senate and so far there is nothi
probably celebrating because they just got word from the white house that there is a deal, a fiscal cliff deal. the problem is the dancing may not be happening all the way up here on capitol hill because, frankly, it still has to pass the senate and the house. but they can still cheer. i'm bret baier live in washington. we have the breaking news that they are very close they say to the final deal between senate democrats and republicans and vice president biden who is currently meeting with...
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cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister silvio berlusconi is rounding out his new year with a divorce, pinning his ex-wife almost $4 million per month. he was accused of having relationships with young women. the venezuelan president hugo chavez cents a message of faith to his supporters from his hospital bed. the message said that well- wishers and supporters were helping his recovery following the cancer operation. there is been speculation over whether his health has left him fit to lead the country. >>> a 6-year-old british girl who was abducted by he
cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister...
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will go over the fiscal cliff. but what about this deal that is shaping up and may be a done deal? we now turn to chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live monitoring all of the back and forth up on the hill. hi, mike. >> hi, bret, good evening. democratic sources feel like there is a deal between the white house and congressional republicans to move forward on the deal. republican sources essentially vice president biden s up here to push it across the finish line. there are are some reluctant democrats who think that extending the bush tax cut should have a lower rate. they were hoping it would be only extended for are individuals making $200,000, couples making $250,000. all indications are are the number is going to be extended for those making up to $400,000 and $450,000. a compromise if you will and so bottom line the vice president has come up here to meet with senate democrats to it essentially push it across the finish line after a long day of negotiating with senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. he told members earlier in the day he thought he had a done de
will go over the fiscal cliff. but what about this deal that is shaping up and may be a done deal? we now turn to chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live monitoring all of the back and forth up on the hill. hi, mike. >> hi, bret, good evening. democratic sources feel like there is a deal between the white house and congressional republicans to move forward on the deal. republican sources essentially vice president biden s up here to push it across the finish line. there are...
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that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are saying we've seen how difficult it is to do these deals. look at what happened with greece, with bailouts, with sovereign debt crises, with the euro zone. it was only at the very last possible minute that compromise was reached, that the big bargain was done. and if you look at the united states, even at a time of, a moment when really both sides needed to do more than the minimum, the markets will be saying they failed to do so. so, yes, they will be relieved, there won't be any immediate reaction, but the markets are certainly putting the politicians on notice tha
that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are...
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it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones, one democrat just left the meeting, he's going to be joining us next. sten to thesy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today,
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because even if there is a deal, technically avoids going over the fiscal cliff, stops all the other stuff from happening. it's a disaster because we had seven weeks to do a big deal, which would have reassured the markets, the world, that we could function as a government and make important compromises that we could take shared pain as well as shared sacrifices and all we've done even if we get out of this by december 31, we kicked the can down the road to another day where we'll have to face the harsh realities that you can't always get what you want. we democrats are going to have to accept significant entitlement reform, some of which is needed to preserve the programs we hold dear. republicans are going to have to accept 1$1.2 or three trillion n new revenue. the numbers have to add up, so we can get down to a reasonable percentage of gross national product. >> governor, when you watch these politicians on both sides of the aisle for that matter, take to the cent floor, point fingers, then we have this meeting where nothing has been done, how frustrating is this and is it a symp
because even if there is a deal, technically avoids going over the fiscal cliff, stops all the other stuff from happening. it's a disaster because we had seven weeks to do a big deal, which would have reassured the markets, the world, that we could function as a government and make important compromises that we could take shared pain as well as shared sacrifices and all we've done even if we get out of this by december 31, we kicked the can down the road to another day where we'll have to face...
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they are waiting to reconvene to take up the fiscal cliff deal. after the gop meeting, we may learn when the house might vote on the deal and when republicans might amend it. house democrats are meeting on capitol hill with vice president joe biden. he is there to explain the deal he and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell brokered and that the senate approved. >>> the white house is keeping a close eye on today's developments in the house. stay with msnbc for more updates. and now back to hardball. >>> two steps forward, one step backward. let's play "hard ball." >> let me start this last night of the year with this, two steps forward, one step forward, that's the year if you look at it. so many good decisions as a society. we saw the angry faces of reaction to demographic change in the beginning. the people bringing guns to political events. the faces of hatred in the birther mularkey. the dog whistling whether it was about the president or his surrogate, susan rice. guess what? none of it worked. it just didn't. who would have known how powe
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you are up first, as the senate early this morning approved the deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. caller: happy new year. i think it is a good deal the democrats got, but i am worried on the second dell as they want to put social security on the line. it does nothing to do with the deficit. our taxes paid into social security. it has nothing to do with debt. i do not know why the republicans -- the republicans have been trying to get rid of social security for 70 years now and have not gotten it done. they want to take the money and give congress a raise. they want to take people's social security money and give congress a raise and what are they doing? nothing. then they want to take money and give it to the pentagon. they put all of the money into these outfits, but they want to cut social security. host: john, ap reported this morning that officials decided to use the measure to prevent the pay raise for lawmakers. i want to let you know that, and also, if you are concerned about social security on the table in what is called round two after the 113th congress convenes, which h
you are up first, as the senate early this morning approved the deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. caller: happy new year. i think it is a good deal the democrats got, but i am worried on the second dell as they want to put social security on the line. it does nothing to do with the deficit. our taxes paid into social security. it has nothing to do with debt. i do not know why the republicans -- the republicans have been trying to get rid of social security for 70 years now and have not gotten...
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cliff" deal is in sight. sunday the house has been called to an unusual session just in case an agreement is not reached. >>> a new report suggests the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing consumers to lose confidence in the nation's economy. the conference board said on thursday its consumer price index fell sharply in december for the second consecutive month. >>> a potential strike by dock workers along the east coast and gulf coast threatens to cost the nation's economy billions. more than 14,000 longshoremen are ready to strike sunday. a walkout would shut ports from boston to houston. those ports move as much as 100 million tons of goods each year including everything from flat screen tvs, sneakers and snow shovels. >>> ski world entertainment plans to become a publicly traded company. the company's three parks are known for their water shows with killer whales. it earned $86 million during the first nine months of this year. seaworld's other property including two busch gardens parks and sesame place in p
cliff" deal is in sight. sunday the house has been called to an unusual session just in case an agreement is not reached. >>> a new report suggests the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing consumers to lose confidence in the nation's economy. the conference board said on thursday its consumer price index fell sharply in december for the second consecutive month. >>> a potential strike by dock workers along the east coast and gulf coast threatens to cost the...
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. >> and who is going to be blamed if washington doesn't make a deal on the fiscal cliff? we are going to debate that plus, france says no to high taxes on the rich. could the united states learn something from that? we'll analyze that when we come back. ♪ need not wonder why ♪ ♪ no tim ♪ ♪ you're a heartbreaker, dream maker ♪ >> welcome back to a sunday prime time edition of "the five." and as the clock ticks down and going over the so-called fiscal cliff. no deal he yet, but there is some finger pointing going on. >> i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that option is necessary. >> i will say this, i think that the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith, but it's just that we're apart on some pretty big issues. >> and senator reid-- >> this has been a blame game from the very, very beginning and dana, we saw today president obama tak
. >> and who is going to be blamed if washington doesn't make a deal on the fiscal cliff? we are going to debate that plus, france says no to high taxes on the rich. could the united states learn something from that? we'll analyze that when we come back. ♪ need not wonder why ♪ ♪ no tim ♪ ♪ you're a heartbreaker, dream maker ♪ >> welcome back to a sunday prime time edition of "the five." and as the clock ticks down and going over the so-called fiscal cliff. no...
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that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get h
that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate....
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to avert the fiscal cliff. it's a positive sign that if congressional leaders reach some type of deal, the house and senate will be in town to get votes on the record. >> right now the spending that we have in washington d.c. is affecting this country. >> i hope the speaker and his republican party will be here, democrats, working to finish the task in reaching an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff. senator barrasso joins us. well, why do you say that? >> well, i think the president sees political victory at the bottom of the cliff in term of the increased tax money coming in that he can spend for other programs. i think he sees a lot the military which the democrats have been after for a long time and then he gets to do what he loves to do, is to blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff and that's why i want to get a solution. >> tomorrow do you think it's going to be
to avert the fiscal cliff. it's a positive sign that if congressional leaders reach some type of deal, the house and senate will be in town to get votes on the record. >> right now the spending that we have in washington d.c. is affecting this country. >> i hope the speaker and his republican party will be here, democrats, working to finish the task in reaching an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff....
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struggle to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, for a larger deal along the lines laid out by the simpson bowls commission is a part of the past that is a disappointment, the key architect of the fix the debt campaign and maya mcginnis. thanks for being with me on this saturday, maya. >> thank you. >> am i right in suggesting that even if a deal is fixed it would be far too small for your liking. >> you are right. the immediate pressing task is to not hurl the country over the fiscal cliff and i disagree it wouldn't be a problem if we went over it, and i worry that the ramifications of going over the cliff could be quite severe, not just that tax increases would be put in place because realistically at some point zee to come to terms with the fact we need to raise revenues and we'll have to raise taxes in one way or another and the point is that the fiscal cliff is a way that we would put a ton of economic damage in the economy and a lot of uncertainty about whether washington can govern. but just as important or using that fiscal cliff and not going over it and using that moment
struggle to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, for a larger deal along the lines laid out by the simpson bowls commission is a part of the past that is a disappointment, the key architect of the fix the debt campaign and maya mcginnis. thanks for being with me on this saturday, maya. >> thank you. >> am i right in suggesting that even if a deal is fixed it would be far too small for your liking. >> you are right. the immediate pressing task is to not hurl the country over...
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cliff deal that the senate voted on last night? >> i haven't been part of those discussions. like most americans i find it very, very frustrating to watch it. it's not what we expected. i can tell you that. the spending is a problem. when i campaigned last year-and-a-half all across the state of nebraska what i heard from people was their concern about spending. that's not addressed in this bill. i thank the leader. i thank the vice president for coming together and putting forth part of the solution. in helping with tax relief for many americans. but that didn't go far enough. we have to address spending if we're really going to talk about the problem. >> woodruff: spending was a part of the discussion but the republicans were not able to agree with the spending cuts that were offered by the white house. where did everything go wrong in our opinion? >> i think you can also say the white house didn't agree with the spending cuts that were offered by the republicans. again we need to work together. we have to quit saying it's the re
cliff deal that the senate voted on last night? >> i haven't been part of those discussions. like most americans i find it very, very frustrating to watch it. it's not what we expected. i can tell you that. the spending is a problem. when i campaigned last year-and-a-half all across the state of nebraska what i heard from people was their concern about spending. that's not addressed in this bill. i thank the leader. i thank the vice president for coming together and putting forth part of...
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the fiscal cliff. what do you think are the dynamics operating there, including senator mcconnell's position. >> he has three choices here, he can find a couple votes to help harry reid get to 60 so they can help a small piece through. he can say, look, do it yourself, we're not going to filibuster it, so you can pass with just the majority only, and then you own all the responsibility for this. or he can simply do nothing. and at this point he's choosing the do nothing route. i don't know how long that's going to last. i think boehner gave a hint of a little openness to something in his statement he put out today. in the very end he said, we passed a bill, the senate doesn't like it, they should amend it, send it back and we will vote on it. that's a commitment from him. if the senate takes up the house bill, amends to do exactly what reid wants, then you have a commitment for boehner to vote on it. it will pass, because there are enough democrats that will meet with republicans to pass it. >> ryan gr
the fiscal cliff. what do you think are the dynamics operating there, including senator mcconnell's position. >> he has three choices here, he can find a couple votes to help harry reid get to 60 so they can help a small piece through. he can say, look, do it yourself, we're not going to filibuster it, so you can pass with just the majority only, and then you own all the responsibility for this. or he can simply do nothing. and at this point he's choosing the do nothing route. i don't...
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or conclusion to this fiscal cliff by the end of the year think it's going to be a bad deal so while some are saying that we could get a rally if there's a deal reached by the president and congress, we could get a quick ramly, it's only temporary and we face the reality of the situation in the new year, and bottom line, david, when we looked at the oil reports today, there is a significant decline in energy consumption in the united states right now, and while that might be good to lower gas prices, it's not a great sign about the overall economy. david: it's not at all, but it makes the current rise in oil prices seem stranger than before. if the economy's slowing down, no reason for oil to be above 90 # for the long term. >> right. david: thank you very much. >> the trend with the retail consumer as a whole; right? david: market pam, john stevenson and larry, multimedia trust associate portfolio manager from west newton, massachusetts, and if you go to boston college, you see that name everywhere. spent a lot of money at that college. i hope we didn't misrepresent your position. y
or conclusion to this fiscal cliff by the end of the year think it's going to be a bad deal so while some are saying that we could get a rally if there's a deal reached by the president and congress, we could get a quick ramly, it's only temporary and we face the reality of the situation in the new year, and bottom line, david, when we looked at the oil reports today, there is a significant decline in energy consumption in the united states right now, and while that might be good to lower gas...
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fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leaders
fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that...
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cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year, will be met with hand-to- hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens around the world is our economy is not going to be what it could have been. the quality of life for americans is not on to be what it should have been because we have not acted in a way that is proper, we are not carrying out the duties that we were hired to carry out. >> i am not even sure there is a question, but your proposal is over a 10-year period. yet a trillion-dollar increase in the debt ceiling will not even last a year. at best. >> right. >> do you know whatever you propose cuts to medicare that everybody gets out of this -- [indiscern
cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year, will be met with hand-to- hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens around the...
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cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year will be met with hand-to-hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens are run the world is our economy is not going to be what it could have been. the quality of life for americans is not on to be what it should have been because we have not acted in a way that is proper, we are not carrying out the duties that we were hired to carry out. >> i am not even sure there is a question, but your proposal is over a 10-year period. yet a trillion-dollar increase in the debt ceiling will not even last year. do you know what ever you propose cuts to medicare that everybody gets out of this -- [indiscernbile] the spending probl
cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year will be met with hand-to-hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens are run the...
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. >> we ought to go over the fiscal cliff. i think we shouldn't make a deal where we're not -- we shouldn't raise taxes. we need entitlement reform, then we can talk. if there's no real entitlement reform, there's nothing we can do. democrats spend, spend, spend. now they have the bill, the fiscal cliff and they don't like the result. what are they going to do? it's time you actually put a stop -- >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> a case of extreme helicopter parents sued by their daughter for stalking but is what they did really that bad? you're legal eagles are on the case coming up. ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. >>> a parents' love is unconditional and sending kids to college is hard. when you plant monitoring soft
. >> we ought to go over the fiscal cliff. i think we shouldn't make a deal where we're not -- we shouldn't raise taxes. we need entitlement reform, then we can talk. if there's no real entitlement reform, there's nothing we can do. democrats spend, spend, spend. now they have the bill, the fiscal cliff and they don't like the result. what are they going to do? it's time you actually put a stop -- >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you....
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avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position, but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> but i've got to ago you this question because this is one f the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president wants or republicans suggested nobody or people making over a million dollars, but you, senator schumer, had proposed raising taxes only on those making over a million dollars. and i want to take a look at what you said about this proposal going up $250,000 last year. you said "in the eyes of many, it is hard to ask households making $250,000 or $300,000 a year. in large parts of the country, that kind of income does not get you a big home or lots of vacations or anything else that is associated with wealth. it also would affect too many small businesses." weren't you right back then when you said it would be wrong to raise taxes on those? >> we offered that to our republican colleagues two
avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position, but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> but i've got to ago you this question because this is one f the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president wants or republicans suggested nobody or people making over a million dollars, but you, senator schumer, had...
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aimed at at least portions of the fiscal cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> . >> never trust the caterers. anyway, republican national chairman committee man. i say that because i could not have been somebody who paid 1 $10,000 to go 234 there and then hurt the guy. >>> if u you're right about this election, it's the numbers. first of all, they occupy people. 1 pnt. all of the sudden, 1% became the thing to talk about. and then the 47% being anybody who's on any kind of government benefit program. whether it's disability or retirement or military or pension. everything was panted as bad. where did he get that number? >> well, look, you know, this election was all
aimed at at least portions of the fiscal cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's...
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now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have faith. honestly, it is not -- these guys are best at the last minute. i think we're far from the last minute, though it feels that way to a lot of people. especially the unemployed losing their benefits tomorrow. it is a serious matter. they're best at the last minute and they're not there yet. >> we shall see. >> try to smile. >> i'll try. i'm sure many americans are trying as well. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about businesss? what about businesses? rick newman of u.s. news and world reports tells us they're cutting back already. >> to
now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have...
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we haven't heard much about whether a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is in the works or out of the question. in what passes for a sign of hope, senate staff members spent saturday shuttling papers presumably containing proposals between harry reid and mitch mcconnell's offices. both the senate and house are meeting today. joins me touk at that about where things stand is darrell issa of california and done nan edwards and michigan senator debbie sab snow and jon ba wrasse o from wyoming. what's up? what is happening that you can tell us about? >> well, there's a lot of work going on right now on both sides of the aisle in the senate to come to an aagreement. to me there's take basic principle, and if everybody agrees we can go forward. that is, don't hold middle class families hostage to the debate about whether or not the wealthiest americans should get another tax cut. i would argue we can't afford it as a country, but the question is, are we going to allow middle class families to see their taxes go up while we have this debate? if we can agree we will continue tax cuts for the middle cl
we haven't heard much about whether a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is in the works or out of the question. in what passes for a sign of hope, senate staff members spent saturday shuttling papers presumably containing proposals between harry reid and mitch mcconnell's offices. both the senate and house are meeting today. joins me touk at that about where things stand is darrell issa of california and done nan edwards and michigan senator debbie sab snow and jon ba wrasse o from wyoming. what's...
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. >>> next, just six days until the fiscal cliff. the clock is ticking and it's not just about taxes. ahead, what else is at risk if a deal isn't reached in washington? >>> and the latest on former president george h.w. bush. an update on his condition is next. trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. advil pm® or tylenol pm. the advil pm® guy is spending less time lying awake with annoying aches and pains and more time aslee
. >>> next, just six days until the fiscal cliff. the clock is ticking and it's not just about taxes. ahead, what else is at risk if a deal isn't reached in washington? >>> and the latest on former president george h.w. bush. an update on his condition is next. trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm...
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, and we'll create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. again, a total lack of courage, lack of leadership. >> senator corker does congress realize how ridiculous this looks to the american public duelling press conferences, zero substance. we are minutes away from a deadline here and it doesn't look like anyone in washington is taking it seriously. >> i think most of us understand it. i think you guys know that i've laid out a very detailed bill to deal with it. i shared it with the white house, with speaker boehner, with leaders at every level. i've put forth an entitlement reform package. the problem is we don't want to face up to the tough issues that our nation is dealing with and yes, i think we understand that. we should not be having back room meetings. the reason we have the closed door meetings is again we don't have the courage to debate these issues out on the senate floor. >> so that no one gets the blame, instead everybody gets the blame. >> that's exactly right. >> i want to ask you a question about speaker boehner and plan
, and we'll create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. again, a total lack of courage, lack of leadership. >> senator corker does congress realize how ridiculous this looks to the american public duelling press conferences, zero substance. we are minutes away from a deadline here and it doesn't look like anyone in washington is taking it seriously. >> i think most of us understand it. i think you guys know that i've laid out a very detailed bill to deal with it. i...
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they're not --you know, they are waiting to see what's going to happen with the "fiscal cliff." >> reporter: and hope is fading that congress can get a deal done before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> i am not optimistic. >> reporter: even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a "fiscal cliff" summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chambers of congress. >> i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: under senate rules the only way a bill could make its way through the procedure hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to slow the progress. the house will be back here sunday night giving them just more than 24 hours to vote on any bill the se
they're not --you know, they are waiting to see what's going to happen with the "fiscal cliff." >> reporter: and hope is fading that congress can get a deal done before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> i am not optimistic. >> reporter: even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and...
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lawmaker has a long time to avoid the fiscal cliff. now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to do what they didn't want to do to begin with. which is compromise. they could not reach a deal to destabilize the federal government's long-term finances so they built this to put more pressure on themselves to reach a deal now. and even this does not seem to be enough to do it, to force them to make the difficult concessions that are required for the two sides to come together this is indignant of a broader problem we face of a red coalition and blue coalition that reflect very different visions of american and show less and less cooperation. we are looking at a divid
lawmaker has a long time to avoid the fiscal cliff. now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the...